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Post by nonleagueweirdo on May 9, 2016 12:28:08 GMT
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Post by Leo210856 on May 9, 2016 13:53:59 GMT
I think to be fair this situation has always been factored in . Whilst I can't be 100% sure I think the P&R brings in in the region of £38k pa. Going back to the trusts proposed budget for 2013/14 the planned total gate receipts for a season were the exact same figure as the income from the P&R.
As for trying to reverse DCCs descion I very much doubt that there is any chance whatsoever of achieving that .
All goes to show just what a nightmare it is to try and raise enough finance to run non league football
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Post by jutty on May 9, 2016 16:40:47 GMT
I think DCC are looking to bring it back through outsourcing it which is also the case for the Weymouth gateway site, it`s just whether any company feel it is viable to continue.
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Post by dabbsie on May 10, 2016 15:02:39 GMT
As far as I'm aware that they haven't made a decision yet?
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Post by Leo210856 on May 10, 2016 15:49:33 GMT
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Post by dabbsie on May 11, 2016 15:34:42 GMT
There was something in the paper today that the council will stop park and ride from the football club which I think we miss out on 30K pa
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Post by nonleagueweirdo on May 26, 2016 7:47:15 GMT
Confirmation of an upcoming budget cut! 'The club are currently talking to other possible partners to continue the service which is due to end in the summer. As a result the management have had no alternative at present but to reduce the playing budget which will have an effect on the number of players that can be offered contracts next season, and is a big blow to the managements ambitions to push for a play-off place. Assistant manager Nick Crittenden said;”It is a huge blow as we were expecting to be working with at least the same budget as last year. However, the decision has thrown doubt on whether that additional income will be available in the future, and they have had to cut our funds accordingly.” The club had targets for the upcoming campaign, and whilst they are still pursuing some of those, it is making life very difficult for them to juggle the finances.' www.viewnews.co.uk/park-ride-key-jermyns-budget/ |
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Post by seantizz on May 26, 2016 17:46:48 GMT
'No alternative'  That's only a solution if you have a board who aren't prepared to think outside of the box. Community club? Pah... A few individuals who thought this was their way to glory and power.. Sean |
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Post by sharknado on May 26, 2016 19:31:56 GMT
'No alternative' That's only a solution if you have a board who aren't prepared to think outside of the box. Community club? Pah... A few individuals who thought this was their way to glory and power.. Sean Exactly this. Too many chiefs not enough Indians. |
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Post by Leo210856 on May 28, 2016 11:39:03 GMT
'No alternative' That's only a solution if you have a board who aren't prepared to think outside of the box. Community club? Pah... A few individuals who thought this was their way to glory and power.. Sean I know for a fact that some years ago DTFC went through a process whereby they considered running the P&R in house. At that time the numbers didn't stack up nor did your board think the increase in prices, that could have tipped the balance would see the same level of users. One of the main attractions of the P&R is the cost. I think a annual season ticket is around £120 . The suggestion is that 110 of the 160 users have these season tickets that's what £ 176000 pa and on the basis that there is another 50 users a day over about 240 days that's another £12000 pa so your talking about £30000 be generous and say £35000. As the parking is off road that income includes VAT so £7000 disappears in the blink of an eye. So that's £28k. From that £28k you will have to factor in things like public liability insurance , utilities and wear and tear not that I would expect it to be that much the none the less it needs to be considered but for my back of a fag costing so I will say nil That leads you to the main heads of current expenditure. First you have to get the drivers and passengers to and from town. I suspect to cover the extended hours and number of days that the P&R is open and probably will need to continue to be open, will require probably a minimum of two full time staff as well as vehicle to transport them in and all the costs associated in running what would be a PSV. I wouldn't like to hazard a guess at how much this would cost but unless you can either put these costs either in part or full elsewhere then Iwould suspect any profit is small or already eaten away. But alas that's not the end of the story. The P&R is run as a business. As things stand there is a significant seperate charge for business rates.The car park at this time attracts a rateable value of £32500 meaning some £15000 pa is payable. It's possible that this could change but according to the records this valuation has been the subject of two appeals. All the information re this issue are available to be viewed free on line. Of course football clubs in the current era have to look toward cutting costs and just as they always have they need to maximise income and when someone (DCC) in effect underwrote the obvious losses that was great but I really do wonder if trying to run the P&R in house is just a pipe dream |
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Post by seantizz on May 28, 2016 13:57:01 GMT
Thanks Leo..
I wasn't necessarily saying that the park and ride was the way to go & your sums kind of indicate that it might not be.
My point was a bit wider - that for a 'community' club, some members of the board have done more to alienate supporters and members of the community than is acceptable.. They give the impression that they want to do things on their own.. They've spectacularly failed in getting the buy in of the community.. An engaged community could generate more than enough ideas and funds to replace the loss of the P&R... But, sadly, our board don't have that vision and want to keep their own ball to themselves..
Sean
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Post by Leo210856 on May 28, 2016 15:08:14 GMT
Thanks Leo.. I wasn't necessarily saying that the park and ride was the way to go & your sums kind of indicate that it might not be. My point was a bit wider - that for a 'community' club, some members of the board have done more to alienate supporters and members of the community than is acceptable.. They give the impression that they want to do things on their own.. They've spectacularly failed in getting the buy in of the community.. An engaged community could generate more than enough ideas and funds to replace the loss of the P&R... But, sadly, our board don't have that vision and want to keep their own ball to themselves.. Sean I guessed you weren't talking necessarily talking about the park and ride . As a outsider it's extremely interesting to watch what is happening at DTFC and whilst I don't have a vested interest I can't help but feel that many who became involved just didn't realise what a challenging job running football at non league is but having said that the two words that keep coming to him d were those often used in the early gays namely communication and transparency. Some years ago I pointed out that spreadsheet management was near enough impossible and unfortunately the conventional model can only be replaced if there is a concerted effort from a significant number of individuals and then you have to delegate and trust and empower. The dilemma is once you cut the playing budget the likelihood is that success on the field lessens and with that income reduces so you cut the playing budget further and the, well you get the picture. |
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Post by DT1 on Jun 6, 2016 8:35:07 GMT
Luke and Toby Holmes off to Wimborne then.
Happy Monday X
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Post by wimbornelocal on Jun 6, 2016 11:13:35 GMT
Well happy with that, cheers lads!
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