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Post by wingnut on Sept 12, 2017 20:52:54 GMT
Any sign of Captain Obvious of Chickerell with tonight's scores. You must have a witty one liner for us Nige?
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Post by wingnut on Sept 13, 2017 11:53:19 GMT
It's all gone quiet caravan side?
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Post by nige on Sept 13, 2017 17:38:24 GMT
No Wingers, now our reserves have folded up , you will be able to sign some more cast offs .
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Post by nige on Sept 13, 2017 17:40:12 GMT
No Wingers, now our reserves have folded up , you can sign a few more castoffs !!.
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Post by wingnut on Sept 14, 2017 16:05:13 GMT
All donations accepted at the moment! I assume you pulled out of the reserve league because you lost a couple of games of late?
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Post by steven on Sept 14, 2017 16:15:04 GMT
All donations accepted at the moment! I assume you pulled out of the reserve league because you lost a couple of games of late? They quit to put the money into the first team, begs the question if we should as well? |
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Post by wingnut on Sept 14, 2017 17:03:15 GMT
Different clubs. Think we should be trying to develop our own players and I thought that was the plan .
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Post by cherrymagpie on Sept 14, 2017 17:27:32 GMT
All donations accepted at the moment! I assume you pulled out of the reserve league because you lost a couple of games of late? They quit to put the money into the first team, begs the question if we should as well? We are a community club which means we are under a banner as such and dismantling the reserves kinda goes against the ethos in my opinion. I was sceptical about re starting the reserve side as last time it was a running joke about players being subbed and being in the bar before the fans. This time it's a much more professional attitude and I think we as a club are benefiting from that as shown by the number of players from the first team dropping down for minutes and game time. It's an interesting move by Weymouth in so many respects only time will tell if it's the correct one. |
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Post by tom on Sept 14, 2017 20:32:37 GMT
I would guess that most of our reserve lads are on zero wages, though that of course changes when first team players turn up for a game, so purely on a budget aspect, it would be interesting to know how much money could be saved by not having a 2nd 11.
I would guess that if the first team management was happy with a basis of say 16/18 players that would be training and envoled for every match, then why waste money on what I presume are non paying contract players, just to turn up on a night to add extra pressure on a flimsy pitch and waste valuable coppers on the floodlights. Plus as an aside, am I right in thinking that non of the reserves, in the eyes of the Dorset F BLOODY A, count when we have to make up a team in the fecking micky mouse comp that is the Dorset Senior cup.
So I personally think that maybe DTFC should also think about scrapping the reserves, money & pitch we'll saved
UTM 😀
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Post by magchester on Sept 14, 2017 22:49:34 GMT
For me personally I would be very sad to see the reserve set-up scrapped, and am quite shocked that people would be open to potentially seeing this happen. I could understand it if the reserve team was full of ageing players, who lacked the ability and quality to ever break into the first team squad and were basically treating the reserve side as a 'kick about with their mates'. However at present our reserve side is anything but that.
People can put across the argument of the financial costs involved with running a reserve team, but those costs are irrelevant imo when there is the chance (however small it may be) of a local player coming through and potentially being sold on to a professional club. In recent years our reserve side has produced players such as Calvin Brookes (we won't mention him too much), Oakley Hanger, David Jerrard, Tom Blair and more recently Billy Mitchell but to name a few. For me as a supporter one of the best feelings I get through going to watch games is seeing a local player putting on the Dorchester shirt and wearing it with pride and giving 100% every time they take to the field.
Last season the reserves performed extremely well, finishing runners-up in the league and reaching the latter stages of two cup competitions and thus far into this season are unbeaten. In Rich Robson we seem to have a promising young coach, who along with the team despite some departures in the summer are only going to continue to improve imo.
Moreover if we were to abandon our reserve team, there would be no clear pathway for players from our U8's to our U16 youth sides to progress through to potentially one day play for the first team. You may then see theses players move on to other local non-league sides or drop out of football all together because of the perceived lack of opportunities at their home town club.
At the end of the day I'm sure you'll all agree the reserve side will be judged on how many quality players it can produce for the first team and I'm sure and I hope that if our next manager has a willingness to give these players a chance then it really will only be a matter of time before we start seeing a couple more lads making the step-up to the first team.
UTM!
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Post by seantizz on Sept 15, 2017 7:24:00 GMT
Brilliant post Magchester..
It's exactly for these reasons (and more) that the reserve set-up is valuable for us. I really do think that being a community club necessitates a strong set-up across all football in the town and not just the first team.
I understand Weymouth's move from an ambition perspective but think it's likely to be short term gain for long term pain..
Sean
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Post by tom on Sept 15, 2017 9:40:37 GMT
Very good post magchester, have now seen the errors in my thinking plus if we obtain the 4g pitch then that will counter my worries about the pitch, so because of magchesters post I retract my thoughts regarding the reserves, though I still think the DFA are all muppets 😀
UTM 😀
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Post by casterbridge on Sept 15, 2017 19:51:48 GMT
Brilliant post Magchester.. It's exactly for these reasons (and more) that the reserve set-up is valuable for us. I really do think that being a community club necessitates a strong set-up across all football in the town and not just the first team. I understand Weymouth's move from an ambition perspective but think it's likely to be short term gain for long term pain..
Sean A short term gain can lead to a longer term review and reassessment of what is affordable & structurally productive. |
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Post by birdman on Sept 17, 2017 12:10:44 GMT
Brilliant post Magchester.. It's exactly for these reasons (and more) that the reserve set-up is valuable for us. I really do think that being a community club necessitates a strong set-up across all football in the town and not just the first team. I understand Weymouth's move from an ambition perspective but think it's likely to be short term gain for long term pain.. Sean Hi, guys i have not been around but back now. sean i think your spot on with your comments. i have put in for the job as first team manager. but having had talks dont think i will get it. |
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Post by Moxy on Sept 18, 2017 21:07:27 GMT
Brilliant post Magchester.. It's exactly for these reasons (and more) that the reserve set-up is valuable for us. I really do think that being a community club necessitates a strong set-up across all football in the town and not just the first team. I understand Weymouth's move from an ambition perspective but think it's likely to be short term gain for long term pain..
Sean A short term gain can lead to a longer term review and reassessment of what is affordable & structurally productive. Weymouth have gone for the short term option so often, it hasn't done them any good. Remember, they used to call themselves the Man U of non league football. |
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Post by casterbridge on Sept 19, 2017 20:26:44 GMT
A short term gain can lead to a longer term review and reassessment of what is affordable & structurally productive. Weymouth have gone for the short term option so often, it hasn't done them any good. Remember, they used to call themselves the Man U of non league football. That was when they were a wealthy club with property around the town & rental incomes. One of the wealthiest clubs in non league in the 60's & 70's. Their family silver was sold and went down the river. At least they were there at some time. There is so little money around in Dorset for football, outside of Bournemouth, I doubt any local club will reach those heights again soon. |
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