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Post by sam on Sept 27, 2017 18:26:53 GMT
Two changes from Saturday - new signing Taylor and Beasley in for Bastick and Jevon
Starting XI:
1. Chris Weale (C)
2. Kyle Egan
3. Neil Martin
4. Jordan Storey
5. Ross Carmichael
6. Luke Winsper
7. Tom Blair
8. Billy Lowes
9. Oliver Taylor
10. Sam Lanahan
11. Jamie Beasley
Subs:
12. Gary Bowles
13. John Ross
14. Crit Clarke
15. Conor Jevon
16. Phil Ormrod
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Post by steven on Sept 27, 2017 18:47:00 GMT
No DPD, Griggs or Jerrard? Birdman is going to go mad if we don't get a result!!!
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Post by sam on Sept 27, 2017 19:00:12 GMT
0-1 up already - Lanahan again!
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Post by sam on Sept 27, 2017 19:15:59 GMT
0-2... and again!
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Post by james23uk on Sept 27, 2017 19:36:34 GMT
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Post by dorchesteriron on Sept 27, 2017 19:55:41 GMT
Sounds like a decent 1st half!!
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Post by james23uk on Sept 27, 2017 20:06:46 GMT
1-3 now. Can we hold on?
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Post by james23uk on Sept 27, 2017 20:12:50 GMT
2-3 and still 25 mins left...
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Post by james23uk on Sept 27, 2017 20:37:41 GMT
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo..........
3-3
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Post by james23uk on Sept 27, 2017 20:43:50 GMT
Full time 3-3
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Post by dorchesteriron on Sept 27, 2017 20:58:31 GMT
Well shit.....on the bright side, we didn’t lose. Grasping and straws somewhat I know.
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Post by brownowen on Sept 27, 2017 21:05:54 GMT
Before the game, I'd have taken a draw tonight in a heartbeat, and we have now achieved the same points in our last 2 away games than in the previous 12, so tonight isn't all bad.
However, we were 3-0 up at half time. A fightback from them was expected but we shouldn't be conceding 3, especially not from a free kick given for a backpass...
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Post by steven on Sept 27, 2017 21:34:57 GMT
Disappointing to not win, as BrownOwen says I would have taken a point prior to kick off.
No game now until Monday, hopefully an extra training session on Saturday to give Steve more of the time he needs to get the team playing his way.
Should be an interesting game against Salisbury.
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Post by berry95 on Sept 28, 2017 0:18:38 GMT
That was heartbreaking.
First half we were outstanding, soaked up all the pressure and took our chances whilst playing some wonderful stuff. Could've had a couple more as well. Second half, we just didn't get going. We switched off, they scored from a quick free kick almost instantly and then we just sat deeper and deeper. Honestly, the 2nd and 3rd were inevitable, but both could've been avoided. Like others said I would've been over the moon with a point before kick off, but after that second half I am so disappointed.
But, 2 away games under Thommo and 4 points, cannot argue with that. Someone with a little too much time on their hands (Cherry Magpie) worked out that we have gained more points in the last 2 away games, then in the previous 12. Its getting there.
Also, we've gone from no strikers at all a couple of weeks ago, to having 4 serious options in Ormrod, Bearwish, Jevon and now Olly Taylor, who looks a great addition, and is an absolute unit. Disappointed with the result, happy with the performance. Onto Hereford (Salisbury doesn't matter)
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Post by Dayvan Cowboy on Sept 28, 2017 8:37:41 GMT
As Berry says, it was heartbreaking the way we didn't hang on, feels like a defeat even the morning after. Though a draw was probably a fair result and hopefully look back later in the season more as a point gained. Farnborough battered us in the second half and we dealt with a lot of their shots, crosses and set pieces fairly well, but the third goal was certainly avoidable. But there were positives. Our pressing game gives us an attacking threat, creating lots of chances and as mentioned we now have options upfront. We have a shape about us now, which I can honestly say I never saw under Laird, apart from the Hitchin game. Negatives was that the high pressing game may have tired us out a bit too soon but Thommo has said he wants to improve our fitness so that will happen in time, with stronger additions over the coming months. Ollie Taylor certainly looks a presence and took his goal very well. We still have the knack of losing confidence when we concede. They couldn't have pulled it back to 3-1 at a worse time for us, as it spurred them on and rattled us but that comes with losing football matches regularly for the last few years. Beasley had a great chance to make it 4-2 which probably would have killed the game. Still, if you look at it its 4 points from 2 away games, which I would have taken going into the weekend. Onward and upwards... hopefully!
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Post by birdman on Sept 28, 2017 14:35:01 GMT
No DPD, Griggs or Jerrard? Birdman is going to go mad if we don't get a result!!! Steven, am I getting a reputation?? We did get a result sort of! One point is better than none! I was talking to someone who watched the reserves last night. DPD was playing but no Gerrard or Griggs! On the report of that game, DPD controlled it, playing wide but as a No.10, if you understand what I mean? Scored twice, one from a penalty and a great run and finish on the other and also, set up one! Where was Gerrard and is Griggs banned? Here I go again, sorry for this but Beardsley - is he better than Gerrard? He is certainly not better than DPD - get real!! Does this mean DPD has been put down to the reserves full time? If this happens, I am sure he will move on! That would be a big loss! And why was Gerrard not in any squad last night? Well done lads for the draw! Should have been a win though from what I hear! |
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Post by seantizz on Sept 28, 2017 14:42:32 GMT
It's fair to say that there was some speculation as to what your level of angst might be with the way that the team lined up last night Birdman..
A train broke down at Clapham Junction and so I arrived half an hour late missing the first two goals. In truth, I must have missed the bit where Dorchester were good because they didn't do a great deal in the second half or last fifteen minutes of the first half (apart from score a fine goal on the break).
Farnborough's manager gives a pretty honest appraisal in his post-match interview. He also says that he thought the Dorchester fans were great. Nice praise - he's probably surprised we still bother given the general quality that's dished out!!
Sean
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Post by steven on Sept 28, 2017 14:51:15 GMT
No DPD, Griggs or Jerrard? Birdman is going to go mad if we don't get a result!!! Steven, am I getting a reputation?? We did get a result sort of! One point is better than none! I was talking to someone who watched the reserves last night. DPD was playing but no Gerrard or Griggs! On the report of that game, DPD controlled it, playing wide but as a No.10, if you understand what I mean? Scored twice, one from a penalty and a great run and finish on the other and also, set up one! Where was Gerrard and is Griggs banned? Here I go again, sorry for this but Beardsley - is he better than Gerrard? He is certainly not better than DPD - get real!! Does this mean DPD has been put down to the reserves full time? If this happens, I am sure he will move on! That would be a big loss! And why was Gerrard not in any squad last night? Well done lads for the draw! Should have been a win though from what I hear! I think Griggs is serving a suspension, I think this also rules him out of the reserves until the suspension for the first team has been served (something similar happened to Brookes last season). Pretty sure Jerrard is carrying an injury, but others may be able to confirm. Assuming you mean Beasley, I would agree, DPD is a better player, the only thing I can think is Beasley's strength and height suits the managers style of play (clutching at straws). DPD can't just move though, he is on a two year contract, although if the manager really doesn't rate him they may agree mutual termination to free up the budget. If DPD is a number 10 then he has Lanahan ahead of him in that position, and Jerrard is also a number 10 (at least that is where he has been played for us), I would also argue Omrod plays a deeper position than an all out forward (picking up flick-ons). |
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Post by CM on Sept 28, 2017 16:09:22 GMT
Only seen DPD play twice (Banbury when he came on for the last 10) and Petersfield where he was anonymous and was subbed at half time, but my early impression was that he's more of an out-and-out winger than a wide forward. As such when playing as part of a front three he doesn't look to get in and behind the defence, instead dropping deeper to pick up the ball and run at them. That may be grossly unfair based on nothing more than an hour or so of seeing him, but for all his deficiencies defensively, Beasley appears to me to be stronger at making the necessary runs that split the full back and centre back.
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Post by birdman on Sept 28, 2017 18:42:07 GMT
Only seen DPD play twice (Banbury when he came on for the last 10) and Petersfield where he was anonymous and was subbed at half time, but my early impression was that he's more of an out-and-out winger than a wide forward. As such when playing as part of a front three he doesn't look to get in and behind the defence, instead dropping deeper to pick up the ball and run at them. That may be grossly unfair based on nothing more than an hour or so of seeing him, but for all his deficiencies defensively, Beasley appears to me to be stronger at making the necessary runs that split the full back and centre back. I totally agree with you tsof. It is grossly unfair of you to make that comment! As against Petersfield, he was playing with an injury, if you check back. Technically, and brain-wise, Beardsley cannot lace DPD's boots! Also,take into account the fact that DPD is only 18, not 30! Against Basingstoke he was outstanding and against Kings Lynn, the same thing! DPD is also a far better passer of the ball as well. At 18, can look forward to a good future in the game whereas at 30, Beardsley can look forward to hanging his boots up! It also baffles me how Beardsley can get in the side and Gerrard not even included? That is a joke! Again, a young man who is a far better player than Beardsley, in my opinion of course! The manager will pick his team as he sees and fair play to him for that as I will always be a Magpie fan! |
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Post by birdman on Sept 28, 2017 18:43:52 GMT
Steven, am I getting a reputation?? We did get a result sort of! One point is better than none! I was talking to someone who watched the reserves last night. DPD was playing but no Gerrard or Griggs! On the report of that game, DPD controlled it, playing wide but as a No.10, if you understand what I mean? Scored twice, one from a penalty and a great run and finish on the other and also, set up one! Where was Gerrard and is Griggs banned? Here I go again, sorry for this but Beardsley - is he better than Gerrard? He is certainly not better than DPD - get real!! Does this mean DPD has been put down to the reserves full time? If this happens, I am sure he will move on! That would be a big loss! And why was Gerrard not in any squad last night? Well done lads for the draw! Should have been a win though from what I hear! I think Griggs is serving a suspension, I think this also rules him out of the reserves until the suspension for the first team has been served (something similar happened to Brookes last season). Pretty sure Jerrard is carrying an injury, but others may be able to confirm. Assuming you mean Beasley, I would agree, DPD is a better player, the only thing I can think is Beasley's strength and height suits the managers style of play (clutching at straws). DPD can't just move though, he is on a two year contract, although if the manager really doesn't rate him they may agree mutual termination to free up the budget. If DPD is a number 10 then he has Lanahan ahead of him in that position, and Jerrard is also a number 10 (at least that is where he has been played for us), I would also argue Omrod plays a deeper position than an all out forward (picking up flick-ons). |
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Post by birdman on Sept 28, 2017 18:51:34 GMT
Aah! That explains why Griggs was not with the reserves yesterday! But Jerrard is not carrying an injury (spelling his name right now!)as I have seen him train!
I think the point is being missed here! Why would you mutually terminate a talented 18 year old's contract, who is more than capable of playing in the first team to keep and pay players that are not as good now and in their mid-twenties, thirties? That just does not make sense to me! Like I said before, if we keep Jerrard, Griggs, Lowes, Blair, and DPD, what a side we would have in two years time, when Lanahan will be 26, Beasleys will be finished and a couple of others gone as they are not good enough!! Guys, guys, we have to think of the future of our club, not just now!!!!!!!!!
Steven, I agree with most of what you say and thanks for putting me right about Beasley.
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Post by seantizz on Sept 29, 2017 0:48:24 GMT
I don't see anything other than what players do on the pitch....
But - whilst Birdman is right about the potential and abilityo of young starlets, it's also much more about attitude.
For example, if DPD were to leave our club with a hump because he wasn't getting first team football, it would be disappointing but I'd argue his attitude was flawed. Players need to fight for their place - as well Birdman knows with his 2 performances for Aintree.
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Post by seantizz on Sept 29, 2017 7:15:03 GMT
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Post by CM on Sept 29, 2017 9:19:00 GMT
I missed that last goal as I was tacking a piss behind the terracing, but that really is criminal defending. Just stick it out of the ground and re-group FFS! There really was a fair bit of naivety in our play at times on Weds night - a real lack of experience. See their first goal: Carmichael is standing right on top of the ball as it's taken quickly. That ball needs to be picked up or kicked away... not jumping out of the way to allow them to take a quick one through on goal. How has the danger not been recognised, even I called it from the other end of the ground?! |
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Post by birdman on Sept 29, 2017 10:54:34 GMT
I don't see anything other than what players do on the pitch.... But - whilst Birdman is right about the potential and abilityo of young starlets, it's also much more about attitude. For example, if DPD were to leave our club with a hump because he wasn't getting first team football, it would be disappointing but I'd argue his attitude was flawed. Players need to fight for their place - as well Birdman knows with his 2 performances for Aintree. Yes you are right SEAN, players need too fight for a place in the first team. I think DPD showed his attiude the other night playing for the reserves, scored twice, and set up one. i was talking too my mate who helps out at new milton, he said DPD was unplayable they could not stop him running the game. He all so said his pissed off with teams like us playing first team players in the reserves for cup games. it was clear from the start DPD was a first team member. i just hope we keep him. all so is JERRARD on a contract with us? i know GRIGGS and LOWES are. any news on why JERRARD has missed last two games? |
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Post by seantizz on Sept 29, 2017 12:16:50 GMT
Did your mate at New Milton once manage us?
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Post by birdman on Sept 29, 2017 13:21:05 GMT
Did your mate at New Milton once manage us? No he did not. I take it no one knows any thing on the JERRARD situ. |
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Post by Dayvan Cowboy on Sept 29, 2017 13:23:27 GMT
Did your mate at New Milton once manage us? No he did not. I take it no one knows any thing on the JERRARD situ. Injured. |
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Post by birdman on Sept 29, 2017 16:35:37 GMT
No he did not. I take it no one knows any thing on the JERRARD situ. Injured. Thanks cowboy. are you sure, as did not look injured in traning. Do you know if his on a contract? |
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