bigal
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Post by bigal on Oct 12, 2017 20:40:58 GMT
Club statement on Twitter; Jamie Beasley & Conor Jevon Leave
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Post by seantizz on Oct 13, 2017 1:12:58 GMT
From the limited amount of football I've seen this year at the Avenue I have no idea if this is right or wrong. I do know that whoever allowed that press statement out in the form they did has absolutely no grasp of written English. The statement makes us look incredibly unprofessional.. Manager does not need a capital M every time the word is used; just read it and weep..
We'll never know who released it.. The club will always fail whilst it doesn't tap up the skills base of fans.
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Post by steven on Oct 13, 2017 8:17:38 GMT
Not surprised Jamie has left, he gave it a shot and it didn't work out, he also got the chance to play in front of 2,500 at Hereford, not something many Dorchester lads have done.
I would have liked to have seen more of Conor.
Sean - No big deal for me, the statement isn't perfect but I'm not going to criticise the few volunteers who give so much to the club.
Have you approached the club with your proposal to do a skills audit of fans? I can't see much coming from it but wouldn't do any harm and I would be happy to be proven wrong. Why don't you be proactive and put forward a proposal of what you want to do and what you need from the club to carry it out.
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Post by seantizz on Oct 13, 2017 8:24:59 GMT
Stephen,
It's amateur - they even spell Conor's name with both one 'n' and two 'nn's in the same release.
If we approach tasks with amateur intent then we'll get amateur results.
Press releases are vitally important because they are a key factor in how other's see us. You might be happy to support a sub-standard club. I'm not.
Sean
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Post by steven on Oct 13, 2017 9:00:05 GMT
Stephen, It's amateur - they even spell Conor's name with both one 'n' and two 'nn's in the same release. If we approach tasks with amateur intent then we'll get amateur results. Press releases are vitally important because they are a key factor in how other's see us. You might be happy to support a sub-standard club. I'm not. Sean Sean - It is Steven, not Stephen, whoops an error. You missed the question about a skills audit?
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Post by neutral on Oct 13, 2017 9:01:48 GMT
Stephen, It's amateur - they even spell Conor's name with both one 'n' and two 'nn's in the same release. If we approach tasks with amateur intent then we'll get amateur results. Press releases are vitally important because they are a key factor in how other's see us. You might be happy to support a sub-standard club. I'm not. Sean Sean. Apologies if I get some spelling, punctuation and grammar wrong but you really need to have a think about things. This is a club not in good health and really struggling to keep its head above water. The side are battling for survival and every game is a struggle. Crowds have dwindled to record low numbers and there is no apparent money man waiting in the wings to take over. Press releases are important, but it has no bearing on “how others” see us. If you want everything right and done 100% by the book, your probably better following a premier league team where the dozens of full time employees can deal with any issues. Supporting a non league club will see lots of errors and mistakes as volunteers will do there very best but will not be able to double and triple check mistakes.
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Post by seantizz on Oct 13, 2017 9:20:08 GMT
Stephen, It's amateur - they even spell Conor's name with both one 'n' and two 'nn's in the same release. If we approach tasks with amateur intent then we'll get amateur results. Press releases are vitally important because they are a key factor in how other's see us. You might be happy to support a sub-standard club. I'm not. Sean Sean - It is Steven, not Stephen, whoops an error. You missed the question about a skills audit? Steve, It was a deliberate error to spell your name incorrectly. I thought that was probably obvious as the rest of my post was about inaccurate name-spelling - something that you're not bothered about when the club do it.. Just heading into a meeting but will deal with the skills audit stuff later.
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Post by steven on Oct 13, 2017 10:23:22 GMT
Sean - It is Steven, not Stephen, whoops an error. You missed the question about a skills audit? Steve, It was a deliberate error to spell your name incorrectly. I thought that was probably obvious as the rest of my post was about inaccurate name-spelling - something that you're not bothered about when the club do it.. Just heading into a meeting but will deal with the skills audit stuff later. Sean, I really wasn't fussed that you spelt my name wrong, I just didn't realise you were trying to be clever. I've just read the original statement again and I can only see one example of manager being capitalised, I can't see it being incorrectly capitalised anywhere?
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Post by Dayvan Cowboy on Oct 13, 2017 10:39:54 GMT
Stephen, It's amateur - they even spell Conor's name with both one 'n' and two 'nn's in the same release. If we approach tasks with amateur intent then we'll get amateur results. Press releases are vitally important because they are a key factor in how other's see us. You might be happy to support a sub-standard club. I'm not. Sean This is a club not in good health and really struggling to keep its head above water. The side are battling for survival and every game is a struggle. Crowds have dwindled to record low numbers and there is no apparent money man waiting in the wings to take over. Good to see you know the full extent of the state and health of this club, Neutral...
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Post by neutral on Oct 13, 2017 10:54:47 GMT
This is a club not in good health and really struggling to keep its head above water. The side are battling for survival and every game is a struggle. Crowds have dwindled to record low numbers and there is no apparent money man waiting in the wings to take over. Good to see you know the full extent of the state and health of this club, Neutral... Judging by the standard of players over the last few years and the lack of investment into the team over the last few years, I personally believe it’s fair to assume the club is not in a good financial state. If the club is in a good financial position, then why has there been such limited investment in the team over the last few seasons?
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Post by Dayvan Cowboy on Oct 13, 2017 11:05:06 GMT
Good to see you know the full extent of the state and health of this club, Neutral... Judging by the standard of players over the last few years and the lack of investment into the team over the last few years, I personally believe it’s fair to assume the club is not in a good financial state. If the club is in a good financial position, then why has there been such limited investment in the team over the last few seasons? Fair point. Though I do believe (from what i've been told by directors at games) we're in a much better financial position than we've been over the past few years. The reason our squad is poor this season is down to the excruciatingly poor recruitment from a certain Mr Laird. I have faith that Thompson is building a much more competitive team, which has improved lots since he's come in. Still lots to work on, sure, but certainly we're on the right track. Another winnable home game tomorrow against Chesham. Regarding the topic of this thread we're starting to wield the axe which needed to happen. Beasley was woefully out of his depth, and Jevon, while didn't look dreadful against a poor Dunstable side, has now been released by 2 clubs in this league this season which might explain he's not up to this level yet. Perhaps 2 or 3 more of the dead wood need to go to make it more reasonably sized.
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Post by seantizz on Oct 13, 2017 12:40:00 GMT
Sean - It is Steven, not Stephen, whoops an error. You missed the question about a skills audit? Steve, It was a deliberate error to spell your name incorrectly. I thought that was probably obvious as the rest of my post was about inaccurate name-spelling - something that you're not bothered about when the club do it.. Just heading into a meeting but will deal with the skills audit stuff later. In terms of a skills audit Steven - I'm really interested to know why you think it wouldn't work. I wonder if we've got the same expectations from it. A skills audit by itself will probably not lead to an increase in volunteering at the club. That's not the purpose of it. My suggestion for launching a skills audit is all about the club getting a greater understanding of the resources it could have at its disposal - and having a log of that so it could call upon those skills if required. It's also an opportunity to signal a new way of doing things. I suspect that the current situation of a few volunteers doing a load is secretly quite enjoyed by some. It's comfortable, you know where you are and you can claim martyr status over the level of workload you face. Let's face it - the current requests for help are pretty narrow in their scope. i can happily supply a bog standard skills matrix to the club - it might need to be amended to make it more 'football club' specific. And i wouldn't mind co-ordinating the results from it. But it's an activity that has to be led by the club. If the culture is wrong, the the exercise would be pointless. On the press release - it's now been slightly edited to remove the capital 'M's and the spelling error in Conor's name. Thoughts? Sean
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Post by tom on Oct 13, 2017 15:50:30 GMT
I have only seen us once so far this season and as yet again I will be at work tomorrow, that will not change, so because of my work and lack of game time, I do read this site for views regarding the team by you guys that can attend. Judging by comments about the two lads that have left(and maybe others in the not to distant future)seems to me, again by reading post on here,maybe a step in the right direction, also good to see the manager making his thoughts known already.
UTM 😀
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