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Post by seantizz on Sept 3, 2016 16:39:23 GMT
It doesn't take a genius to see that things aren't working - and that they haven't been for years.
Banbury were a club on the decline but they seem to have arrested that and now have ambition. The generally positive noises coming from Salisbury and Hereford after a few years of decline makes me envious.
We're neither Banbury, Salisbury or Hereford.. But we are a proud club with an incredible history.
If the ambition remains little more than 'to do enough to survive', we'll keep falling through these leagues at alarming rates.
What at should be done?
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Post by prv on Sept 3, 2016 17:48:19 GMT
I genuinely have no idea,think the club is in free fall and has been for a while,unfortunately though DTFC are not my priority at the moment but hope things can get better!
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Post by wehateweymouth on Sept 3, 2016 18:20:24 GMT
I think there is a lot of supporters who feel the same way.I haven't been to a match for a long time but still follow online whenever we play.I have felt frustrated and sometimes angry at the way the club is presenting itself to the public at time.It sometimes feels very Micky mouse and totally unprofessional.Off the park it seems from afar that the club has has only itself to blame for the financial position the club is in at the moment.It appeared to put everything into the community basket and very nievely thought that the businesses of Dorchester would come flocking to the club with offers of sponsorship and help for the club.Whilst the club was becoming a community club it took its finger off the pulse and after Benji left foe AFCB all those years ago have never replaced him at all in terms of what he did for the club.I personally think that the club is and I hate saying or thinking this slowly dying.Before long it won't be back in the national league where everyone would love us to be but in the Dorset county league.I sure do not know the answer but this club needs to look at itself and admit to itself that how it's being run is killing it.
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Post by Dayvan Cowboy on Sept 3, 2016 19:03:56 GMT
Having been at a loose end today, I thought i'd check out Wealdstone FC as it was a ground i've yet to visit and was only a fiver entry with it being non-league day. It was by coincidence they happened to be playing Poole Town in a conference south fixture. A Dorset club who have in my lifetime spent the majority of their time in the wessex league before their rise up the non-league pyramid. A club that we frequently visited for a pre-season fixture and Dorset Senior Cup games, while we were a competitive conference south side.
Having been to mostly away games with Dorch this season, but also the home game with Cambridge City a week ago, noticing the complete contrast in soul and atmosphere between the two Dorset clubs is staggering. Poole must've brought over 100 fans to Wealdstone today, in a game that had little major significance besides the points on offer as with any league game, but I sensed a buzz and a spirit amongst the players, the supporters and the directors alike, which has generated from having ambition and a constant stream of winning football matches regularly over the past 5 years or so regardless of the league they're in.
Being at the Avenue last week it felt like the heart and soul had been ripped out of the football club. Gone were was the atmosphere, the characters that stood behind the goal and on the railway side, it was almost deserted. There was so little atmosphere, even the doom and gloom merchants that occurred with the hardcore fan base over the years had almost gone and it was a genuine feel of acceptance that the club was crumbling before our very eyes. I'm not talking about the performance on the pitch, but the dynamic within DTFC was painful to witness and can completely empathise to why so many people who do love this club feel disillusioned at the minute, as I couldn't be amongst that week in week out.
Now i'm not saying i've suddenly got the solution, but what can be done to make this proud club what it was? We as fans need to find ways of bringing that pride back into this football club, with a bit of ambition thrown in as well. Not asking for much. Just a glimmer of hope that things will get better because right now, I can only see things getting worse. How long can we let the decline of the football club we all love continue?
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Sept 4, 2016 8:37:10 GMT
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Post by neutral on Sept 4, 2016 8:37:10 GMT
It doesn't take a genius to see that things aren't working - and that they haven't been for years. Banbury were a club on the decline but they seem to have arrested that and now have ambition. The generally positive noises coming from Salisbury and Hereford after a few years of decline makes me envious. We're neither Banbury, Salisbury or Hereford.. But we are a proud club with an incredible history. If the ambition remains little more than 'to do enough to survive', we'll keep falling through these leagues at alarming rates. What at should be done? Salisbury and Hereford can't be compared as they have a large fan base and have excellent commercial departments who bring in tens of thousands of pounds worth of sponsorship and investment each year. Who looks after Dorchesters commercial department and what sort of income is it generating? Any successful non league club without massive support or a very rich investor, needs a solid commercial department. Dorchester as a town has been lucky enough to receive large investment from some huge companies. There is absolutely no reason why the club should not be able to find very good companies/people, to sponsor / invest in the club. This already may be happening, but it would be interesting to know what sort of income has been generated.
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Post by nonleagueweirdo on Sept 4, 2016 8:50:02 GMT
Salisbury and Hereford both have in common that they have formed as phoenix clubs. Was always going to be difficult winning 'hearts and minds' after the CBS came shortly after the greatest season on the pitch in the clubs history.
Was only about 20 years ago that the Salisbury City was playing in a park in front of 100 people. Arguably i would argue they have historically been a similar size club as DTFC? Hereford of course are much bigger and is hard to compare given the resources they must have in terms of people willing to give up their time for the club.
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Post by seantizz on Sept 4, 2016 12:27:46 GMT
Some interesting and productive points coming up now. Regarding commercial, the club has struggled for years, this season has been the first where there has been a decent income with several new sponsors, due to a commercial manager who came in and went door to door around the town. Regarding volunteers, I can think of 20 or so people (including the board), who give their time for free, not a great deal and they need more. I really don't understand the mentality of supporters who have boycotted the club (has this actually happened?) because they don't like how it is being run, if you don't like it get involved and help, by walking away you are making things worse. The ideal solution would be for someone with money to come in and throw money at the club! I'd like to hear more about the successes of the Commercial Manager & the door knocking... Exactly what should be happening. It would appear that these successes haven't found their way to the playing budget? Maybe, that's a result of the park and ride budget changes? I think that Fred's reflections about Poole are interesting. Much of their success seems to have formed by having a ballsy attitude and a vision that many buy into. Let's hope this is a low point.. Sean
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Post by Chris on Sept 4, 2016 17:00:37 GMT
What now? Something needs to be done. We just cant hope that this is a low point. The club and the fans need to be proactive and make sure it is a low point.
I may be looking back through rose tinted glasses but when my wife and I started watching Dorchester Town in the days of the Morgans (manager and player) I remember there being much larger crowds - do people think we will ever get back to those numbers?
So, if we think with a bit of success we can increase the attendances then the club needs to take a risk and borrow some money and buy several players. We can't just sit back, congratulating ourselves for being debt free.
We need a striker who can create and score goals. We need to improve our defence too. We also need a strong leader on the pitch and a strong, loud, vocal manager on the touch line. I just don't see either happening at the moment - happy to be corrected on that - perhaps I cant hear them because where I sit I just always here the away manager shouting!
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Post by brownowen on Sept 6, 2016 14:16:40 GMT
Agree with you on the noise from our bench, our bench was silent yesterday, the away management team were constantly organising and instructing. I hate to say it but does Nick represent value for money as an assistant player manager? I would say neither Nick or Heath offer value for money on the bench. Both seem to be almost silent on the bench in crunch games (one of the reasons Simpkin was sacked after the Weymouth game was his silence on the bench, Nick always seems to view any defeat through rose tinted glasses, failing to see our downfalls and Heath has already been apart of two failed managerial regimes at the club, unless behind the scenes he is working well, I cant see what he is bringing. Jem always seems to be a good manager, but his issue is that he always wants to play himself. Our preseason was practically wasted as our manager didn't actually get to watch a game, as he was always on the pitch. He also seems to try and bend the teams tactics around his desires, i.e. getting others to drop back because he wants to attack a corner and then swapping back over again. Almost the playground attitude of "my ball, my rules"?
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